de Mouilpieds in Australia by Elizabeth Crawford

The Australian Connection.

Hello, my name is Elizabeth. I am a descendant of John de Mouilpied, son of Nicolas de Mouilpied and Rachel Martin who emigrated from Guernsey to Australia in 1853.

My husband and I recently visited Guernsey (we emigrated from Australia to the UK nearly 25 years ago) with a view to searching my family history. We also had a very enjoyable holiday. We established that Nicolas de Mouilpied, Rachel Martin and family were at ‘Les Pelleys, Catel’ on the 1841,1851 and 1861 census. Nicolas (son) left for America between 1841 and 1851. Jean (my GG grandfather) left for Australia in 1853. We had the Greff do a land search on ‘Les Pelleys’ and ‘de Mouilpied’. There are two properties in the Catel Parish. The property Nicolas and Rachel de Mouilpied were on was originally ‘Les Pelleys, Rue du Torval’ but from 1948 known as ‘Les Pelleys de Bas’

A very helpful lady at the Priaulx Library directed me to a book titled ‘Guernsey Emigrants to Australia 1828 – 1899’ by David W. Kreckeler. I found the two entries for de Mouilpied detailed below: -

De Mouilpied – Tullock Castle – Melbourne – 1852

Nicholas, 22, carpenter.

Birth. Guernsey. St Peter Port church register. Nicholas de Mouilpied and of Susanne Vidamour his wife, born on the 27^th Dec, 1830.Census. Guernsey, 1851. de Mouilpied. 381. St Peter Port.

Drowned at sea. Guernsey Star, 7^th April, 1853. Drowned,- on the 13^th Oct last, Mr Godfrey, second mate on board the Tullock Castle, on passage from London to Australia, near the Cape of Good Hope. Also, a week after, Nicholas, son of Mr Nicholas de Mouilpied, of this island, aged 22 years.

De Mouilpied – Koning Wilem II – Melbourne – 1853. John, 20

Birth. John de Mouilpied, son of Nicholas de Mouilpied and of Rachel Martin his wife, born on the 26^th March, 1822.(Note. John de Mouilpied is twin brother of Thomas)

Census. Guernsey. 1851. de Mouilpied. 255. Catel.

Death. Australia. Guernsey News, 14^th May, 1886. Died. – on the 15^th Jan, at Minyip, Victoria, Australia. John, son of Nicholas de Mouilpied, formerly of Les Pelleys, Guernsey, aged 63 years and 9 months.


I am not sure where the first one fits in. Maybe someone else will recognize the line. The second is my Great Great Grandfather.

The following entry is from the following website: -http://www.geocities.com/mepnab/d/d8.html?200917?200928 which lists Australian Pioneer Families

De Mouilpied

John De Mouilpied came c 1860 with Emma Stirling, and lived at Geelong.

2 children

1. Henry William De Mouilpied c 1858
2. John De Mouilpied 1861 #2859 lived 17 days

Henry William De Mouilpied c1858 wed #3571 to Mary Jane Bennett from South Australia, and lived at Nhill, then Yanac
3 children

1. Henry John De Mouilpied 1887 #30676
2. Mary Elizth De Mouilpied 1896 #24581
3. Gina May De Mouilpied 1899 #14840

I am concluding at this stage that John arrived in Australia as a single man as there is no entry for Emma Stirling in ‘Guernsey Emigrants to Australia 1828 – 1899’. It looks like John met and married Emma Stirling within a few years of arriving in Australia in 1853.

In the entry on Debby’s blog for May 4, 2009 Dianne Lockett mentions 6 children for Henry William de Mouilpied. I have been ‘trawling’ the Victorian Births, deaths and marriages online (website:- https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home) and found that Henry William had at least 9 children. I also found 2 more children for John and Emma.

My trawling revealed the following: -

Jean (John) de Mouilpied b.1822 (Guernsey) d.1886 (Minyip)

m. Emma Stirling b. 1835? d.1920 (Warracknabeal)

Lived in Geelong, 1860. 4 children

1. Henry William de Mouilpied b.1859 (Geelong)

m. 1886 Mary Jane Bennett b. 1869 Lived at Nhill

2. John de Mouilpied b. 1861 (Geelong) lived 17 days
3. John Thomas de Mouilpied b. 1875 d. 1959

m. Daisy Hill b. 1885 d. 1959

4. Mary Emma de Mouilpied b. 1877

m. 1905 George Alex Newell.

NB: - The entries for John Thomas and Mary Emma record their parents as John de Mouilpied and Emma Starling.

Henry William de Mouilpied b.1859 (Geelong)

m. 1886 Mary Jane Bennett b.1869

Lived at Nhill. 9 children

1. Henry John de Mouilpied b.1887 d. 1952

m. (1916) Eva Olive Harris

2. William George de Mouilpied b. 1890 d. 1957
3. Albert Thomas de Mouilpied b. 1892 d. 1972

m. 1919 Ruby Alma Zerbst d. 1971

4. Mary Elizabeth de Mouilpied b. 1896 Yanac

m. 1917 Reg Albert Kohn

5. Arthur de Mouilpied b. 1896 d. 1924 Nhill
6. Gina May de Mouilpied b. 1899 Yanac

m. 1918 Frederick David Olney

7. Ida de Mouilpied b. 1901 Yanac
8. Hugh de Mouilpied b. 1903 Yanac d. 1942

m. 1928 Ethel Eva Iris Hutchings b. 1912 d. 1935

m. 1938 Mary Catherine Short

9. Annie de Mouilpied b. 1906

Henry John de Mouilpied and Eva Olive Harris had twin boys who died within a couple of days and 4 girls. My mother is the youngest daughter.
I would love to hear from anyone else from this line. Please contact me on elizabethcrawford333@googlemail.com

John and Henry de Mouilpied in Australia

Dianne Lockett has written and kindly sent some photos regarding the John and Henry connection in Australia. The photo is actually of Mary Jane Bennett who married Henry William de Moulpied.

The photo (if I have this right) is, from left to right:
Mary Elizabeth b. 1896
Mary Jane Bennett b. 1866 in Kingston
Gina May b.1899
Hugh b.?

More below from other sites:

John De Mouilpied b. 1822, d.1886, (from Guernsey, son of Nicolas b. 1791, and Rachel Martin) came c1860 with Emma Stirling, and lived at Geelong
2 children	1. Henry William De Mouilpied c1858 2. John De Mouilpied 1861 #2859 lived 17 days
Henry William De Mouilpied c1858 wed 1886 #3571 to Mary Jane Bennett from South Australia, and lived at Nhill, then Yanac
3 children	1. Henry John De Mouilpied 1887 #30676 2. Mary Elizth De Mouilpied 1896 #24581 3. Gina May De Mouilpied 1899 #14840

Children
Henry John DeMouilpied (Born: 1887)
William George DeMouilpied (Born: 1890)
Arthur DeMouilpied (Born: 1894)
Mary Elizth DeMouilpied (Born: 1896)
Gina May DeMouilpied (Born: 1899)
Ida DeMouilpied (Born: 1901)

There appear to be more children according to another document but darn if I can get it up for now. Will try in another entry.

Can anyone add to this? Do you descend from anyone here? Please help fill in the lineage.

Thanks Dianne!

Australian Cousin Responds - for Betsy de Mouilpied

Roger from Australia has been in contact. Here you go:

My great grandmother on my mother's side was Betsy Tardif de Moulpied b. Dec. 26, 1873, (listed in the St. Martin's Church birth records) from the Channel Isles. She married a La Galle, also from The Channel Isles in the late 1890s and went to live in India where my Great Granfather's regiment was posted. After he died (1919?) My Grandfather, his two brothers and one sister, with their mother migrated to Australia (around 1920).

Now, I was responding to the last two posts:

1. While Grandma La Galle as she was known, was the only de Moulpied that we know of, we do use the space between the de and the Moulpied part.

2. We also pronounce de Moulpied as described by the Guernseyman.

There must be quite a few de Moulpieds in the US. So far I can only find one here in Australia.
I would be interested in hearing from any others in Australia.

Well done for putting the blog up and the information contained. It's prompted me to look for my family tree notes that I have stored somewhere. I am happy to send relevant details of names, births and deaths etc of what I have here regarding the de Moulpieds if I can find it.

Grandma was a lovely lady, She died in about 1964 or 65. I can barely remember her. Mum used to take us to visit her. I still remember a painting she had on the wall in the lounge-room of men working in the rain trying to repair a dam that was bursting.

rtyshing@bigpond.com

PS on my father's side we have an interesting story to tell of the Tyshings. Interesting mix too -Guernseyman and Chinese!!

BUT THERE'S MORE!

Betsy Tardif de Mouilpied was born in 1873 (possibly in England) but the family was back on Guernsey by the time of the 1881 census she had a brother Thomas John who it says in my notes died in 1882 but I have no birthdate yet. The census records they were living at Moulin Huet Rd, St Martin, Guernsey

Their parents were Thomas John de Mouilpied who is listed on the 1881 census as a Carpenter who was born in 1843 and died in 1891 his wife was Marthe Manger (as shown in the records) or maybe Mauger (as I have in my notes) who died in 1912.

Betsy married Alexander Charles La Galle in 1899. If she hadn’t left Guernsey by then it must have been very soon after as my Grandfather was born in March 1900 in Sangor in India where his father was posted

That’s all I have in the notes I’ve found from a de Mouilpied perspective The only new bits I gained from them were the dates of death of both her parents, Her father’s middle name (which is useful as there are so many Thomases and Betsys (mostly spelt Betsey) and Betsy’s date of marriage

There seems to be a bit of an interesting quirk with the middle names of girls Betsy’s was Tardif which may possibly be a maiden name of her father’s mother. The reason I think this is that Betsy’s daughter was given de Mouilpied as a second name. So while it’s not consistant there may be a pattern of maiden names being passed on as second names.